Re: MD SQ-SQ coherence and the Biosphere.

From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
Date: Wed Mar 24 2004 - 20:31:54 GMT

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    Hi All

    Anyone interested in how there has been a dynamic
    evolution at the inorganic level should try and get hold
    of a copy of Arthur M Young's Reflexive Universe.
    I consider the single inorganic level the biggest weakness
    in Pirsig, if DQ has not been an aspect of existence since t=0
    then how can we associate it with the mystical One?

    regards
    David M

    Hi David,

    "Phaedrus thought this was why no one before had ever seemed to have come up
    with the idea that the world is primarily value. The word is too vague. The
    'value' that holds a glass of water together and the 'value' that holds a nation
    together are obviously not the same thing. Therefore to say that the world is
    nothing but value is just confusing, not clarifying.
    Now this vagueness is removed by sorting out values according to levels of
    evolution. The value that holds a glass of water together is an inorganic
    pattern of value. The value that holds a nation together is a social pattern of
    value. They are completely different from each other because they are at different
    evolutionary levels. And they are completely different from biological
    patterns that can cause the most sceptical of intellectuals to leap from a hot
    stove. These patterns have nothing in common except that historic evolutionary
    process that created all of them. But that process is a process of value evolution
    . Therefore the name 'static patterns of value' applies to all. (Lila. page
    157)

    So what Phaedrus was saying was that not just life, but everything, is an
    ethical activity. It is nothing else. When inorganic patterns of reality created
    life, the Metaphysics of Quality postulates that they've done so because it's
    'better' and that this definition of 'betterness' - this beginning response to
    Dynamic Quality - is an elementary unit of ethics upon which all right and
    wrong can be based. (Lila page 161)

    What was emerging was that the static patterns that hold one level of
    organisation together are often the same patterns that another level of organisation
    must fight to maintain its own existence. Morality is not a simple set of
    rules. It's a very complex struggle of conflicting patterns of values. This
    conflict is the residue of evolution. As new patterns evolve they come into conflict
    with old ones. Each stage of evolution creates in its wake a wash of
    problems. (Lila 167)

    I feel there is enough evidence here to show that DQ has, and continues to be
    motivating evolution at all levels simultaneously.
    The Inorganic level is still evolving, and is currently at a stage in its
    evolution where Organic life has the chance to get a grip. When the Universe hits
    heat death, or something of that nature, the conditions for Organic life may
    be severely limited?
    But right now, there is a large window or 'sweet spot' where everything is
    just right?

    All the best,
    Mark.

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