From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Wed Apr 14 2004 - 21:36:07 BST
Mark says:
First, let us examine what an individual is in the MoQ.
An individual Human being is composed of four evolutionary related
levels of static value:
1. The Inorganic.
2. The Organic.
3. The Social.
4. The Intellectual.
DM: I would be interested to know what others think is an appropriate
description
of an individual in MOQ terms. I personally do not think the above is
adequate and jumps
in too quickly to the levels without expressing the fit with SQ/DQ.
To get to something that sounds more like what it is to be a human being
I think we
need to return to examining the reality of experience. The only
experience we have
is that of individual experience, outside of certain mystical or
participatory experiences.
It is due to the opening/clearing that we call 'experience' that it is
possible to talk
about an awareness of activity that can be characterised as possessing
dynamic
or static quality. As individuals we are always troubled by the
emptiness/openness/
choice that is at the heart of what is dynamic. We are confronted by
openness/nothingness,
condemned to choose, unable to live without steping forward into
unchartered territory (i.e.
dynamic activity), for us no instinctual certainty. Our bodies may
conform to certain unchangeable
biological patterns, but even our social activity is open to choice, we
do not have to honour the
father and mother if we decide not to, & even biology can be challenged
as we choose not to procreate
for example. Yet the world is full of pattern, but through knowledge we
can understand these patterns
and turn them to our own ends/values. And through our participatory
understanding of dynamic activity
we can even construct an understanding of how, through the evolution of
levels, it has been possible
for the cosmos to bring about the very mix of SQ and DQ that we are. As
Pirsig says SQ is laid down
in the wake of DQ. In as far as we participate in this human individuals
are extremely significant beings
a sentiment Pirsig also expresses. Where Mark seems to raise the value
of the intellectual level above
that of the dynamic individual I think he is slipping away from the
mystical heart of the MOQ.
What is the general view? And also Mark what say you?
regards
David M
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