Re: MD The Individual Level

From: james marshall (edgarj@shaw.ca)
Date: Thu Apr 22 2004 - 11:19:50 BST

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     April 22, 2004

    Matt inquired:

    Do you think that because someone has greater intellectual capacity, they
    are more easlily able to recognize and enjoy the quality experiences in
    their lives? I often see others recognize the same beauty as I do, but each
    person seems to give everything different weight in their considerations.
    Whenever I look up and see the moon, on a nice night, I always seem to
    comment on it, while others seemingly dismiss it. I recognize that we all
    have our own preferences , but there is something....that I can't quite put
    my finger on right now.

    Anyways, what do you think?

    I was rereading Ken Wilber's No Boundary yesterday and came upon this which
    I think bears upon Matt's question. Wilber quotes an old proverb (p.85)

        I looked, and looked, and this I came to see:
        That what I thought was you and you,
        Was really me and me.

    I think a man is attracted to or repelled from aspects of phenomena in the
    physical universe that either he loves or loathes in himself. The
    luminescence Matt apprehends in the moon in the same luminescence he loves
    in himself. To the extent that intellectual capacity plays a role in
    self-awareness, such is the intensity and coherence of the experience.

    James Marshall

     
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    From: moq_discuss@moq.org
    Date: 04/21/04 15:03:56
    To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    Subject: Re: MD The Individual Level
     
    Hi ,

    Joe:Coherence has a movable throttle!, or maybe there are a lot of
     crashes?

    Poot: I think that you are right. Coherence, which is like the friction
    point (one that never wears the clutch out ;-) , is where the balance
    between DQ and SQ is occuring. Even though I haven't put much thought in
    it, I wonder as to how much we can influence the coherence as it is
    happening. I think that part of the experience would be in the physical
    realm (intertwining static patterns, and other things with they're own
    coherence) and this would be where it would be mostly "out of our hands".
    The other half, would take part in our heads (intellectual) , and how we
    percieve things.

    Do you think that because someone has greater intellectual capacity, they
    are more easlily able to recognize and enjoy the quality experiences in
    their lives? I often see others recognize the same beauty as I do, but each
    person seems to give everything different weight in their considerations.
    Whenever I look up and see the moon, on a nice night, I always seem to
    comment on it, while others seemingly dismiss it. I recognize that we all
    have our own preferences , but there is something....that I can't quite put
    my finger on right now.

    Anyways, what do you think?

    Matt

     


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