Re: MD quality religion (Christianity)

From: Ascmjk@aol.com
Date: Mon May 17 2004 - 17:19:36 BST

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    In a message dated 5/15/2004 9:32:57 PM Central Standard Time,
    DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org writes:
    George Bush frames his foreign policies in religious terms and
    openly asserts that the USA has God on its side, but the neo-conservatives
    who have written about and planned for the democratization of the
    Islamic-Arab world don't put it in those terms. In fact, the original
    architect, Jean Kirkpatrick, openly espoused an unprincipled stance toward
    democracy and human rights. We'll use the principles of freedom to sieze the
    moral high ground when deal with thugs and tyrants tht we DON'T like, she
    said, and we'll just keep quite about the same violations when they're
    committed by thugs and tyrants that we DO like. That's a long way from
    saying that freedom is a gift from God given to all humanity, as Bush has
    said. And yet, both of them just sort of assume that the world should be
    shaped and led by the USA.

    And even I have to confess that it does seem like the world's best shot at
    global democracy. Not while these reactionary fools are at the healm, but in
    the long run, the West, if not the USA alone, will have to take the lead

    Jon says:

    David, I think even you would agree the UN is not even committed to any kind
    of vision of global democracy. As far as Iraq is concerned, I would remind
    people of the nightmare of Reconstruction after the American Civil War. It was a
    long, sometimes nightmarish process in which the liberators (US soldiers) and
    those liberated (slaves) both suffered. Had the North cut and run, however,
    the victory achieved in 1865 would have been meaningless. The fact is President
    Andrew Johnson tried to give the South back to the Southerners TOO SOON (minus
    slavery), and the ensuing rivalry resulted in Northern troops having to
    return for a few years. The North had won. The South was defeated militarily, but
    many Southerners didn't want their way of life changed by those from the North.
    Eventually, the South had to accept new ways of life, and I believe the
    people of the middle east, starting with Iraq, will gradually accept democracy, and
    future generations will reject tyranny the way future generations of Southern
    whites eventually rejected the concept of racism. The differences between
    Iraqi Freedom and the American Civil War are obvious, of course, but the
    similarities are there too. The key is to focus on the intellectual concepts. Yes,
    hatred of the North persisted in the South many years after the civil war and
    pockets of racism exists today, but you can see where I'm going with the analogy,
    which I believe is a compelling one. Pockets of US hatred will persist for
    decades, but acceptance and harmony will spread as democracy itself has spread
    at an unprecedented rate since the mid-1970's (when there were only about 40
    democracies in the world; now there's over 120 I believe)
    Jon

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