From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sun May 30 2004 - 12:13:04 BST
Hi Mark
Yes, celebrity culture says alot about our
low quality values. I think because
people have lost contact with the value of SQ/DQ
and quality they are seeking the only values that
society seems to value, i.e. celebrity. I think that
a campaign to cease supporting celebrity would be excellent,
down with newspapers, TV, films, etc.....
Back to books, community, walking, thinking, direct human
contact.
Another idea copywrite of ideas, art, film, songs, etc is no longer
required now that most of these things can be distributed on the net
for very little cost. Could we create a new class of celebrity that has
nothing to do with wealth only real achievement/art,etc.
regards
David M
----- Original Message -----
From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Evolution of Society.
Hi
I think the first big problem is that we seem to value
material possessions over cultural and intellectual ones.
We allow/encourage people to value material possessions to such a high
extent that they can place their individual material abundance
over the biological and intellectual lives of others. I think this is an
accident
of Capitalism, or rather of our failure to replace it.
Mark 29-5-04: Hi David M, Material possessions are social status symbols? The big house/car/watch/all the rest of it is for those who value the celebrity status they convey upon the apparent owner. I say apparent, because if i simply borrowed these things i could fool someone into believing i had the status they convey, rather like me wearing a Police uniform. If i gave a member of the public an order while impersonating a Police officer, they would show me the appropriate level of authority a uniform suggests?
Corporations have
delivered fantastic productive powers but they advance these for profit
without concern for biological needs for all, intellectual needs and without
concern for the long term environment. Certain groups have done very
well out of this period of Capitalism and wish to retain its dominance, but
this dominance is producing conflict, inequality and the production of
'goods'
that have large negative effects on the highest level, i.e. the
intellectual.
Mark 29-5-04: I feel our main problem is the celebrity. Most people aspire to being a form of celebrity. I wonder if a good place to begin an enquiry into the Moral Evolution of Society may not to have a huge think tank session into the celebrity? This is one area of the MOQ which is hardly ever engaged? I often feel this is due to those who are using this forum to attain their own celebrity status?
What does a $50,000 watch do for evolution? What is the evolutionary value
of entertainment? What do unnecessarily long working hours do for our
intellectual and
biological well being? Any thoughts?
regards
David M
Mark 29-5-04: Indeed. You certainly ask the big questions David!
The forces which have generated the situation you describe are enormous. If one drops out of this network of tensions, how may one survive? Perhaps hard work doing the things one enjoys and finds to be of value is one approach?
Get writing David! You have talent and may use it for the Good?
All the best,
Mark
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