Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Evolution of Society.

From: Ian Glendinning (ian@psybertron.org)
Date: Sun May 30 2004 - 22:31:07 BST

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    But you have to ask yourself would you really want "it" to fall over
    completely ?

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Morey" <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 7:15 PM
    Subject: Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Evolution of Society.

    > Hi
    >
    > I still wonder, along with the writer Mr K Marx, if it will
    > not fall over all by itself one day, can we
    > keep increasing profits for ever? Does
    > capitalism have a reverse gear?
    >
    > regards
    > David M
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Ian Glendinning" <ian@psybertron.org>
    > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 3:41 PM
    > Subject: Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Evolution of Society.
    >
    >
    > > Which seems to bring us full circle to the politics of Noam Chomsky
    again.
    > >
    > > How far are you going to get with an objective of dismantling or even
    > > "controlling" capitalism ?
    > > (Unless of course, you're proposing bloody revolution on a global
    scale.)
    > >
    > > Softly, softly, catch ye monkey, I say - bring MoQ thinking into
    business
    > > decision making of existing and new business organisations.
    > > It's in the memes.
    > >
    > > Ian Glendinning
    > >
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "Mark Steven Heyman" <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com>
    > > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 2:59 PM
    > > Subject: Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Evolution of Society.
    > >
    > >
    > > > On 30 May 2004 at 12:21, David Morey wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > That sounds spot on to me.
    > > > > I think we need to introduce new control
    > > > > mechanisms and values to our corporations.
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > msh says:
    > > > Or dismantle them completely? What moral purpose do they serve? Their
    > > > only purpose, as I see it, is to shield CEOs and other executives,
    > > > BODs, and major stockholders, from criminal and social responsibility
    > > > for their profit-making activities, and to shelter profits from
    > > > taxes, another way of avoiding social responsibility.
    > > >
    > > > I guess I can see value in the ORIGINAL idea of a corporation, a
    > > > temporary legal entity granted a state charter for the purpose of
    > > > raising funds and building a bridge, or a school, or something. But
    > > > this is so radically different from what we have today that, to avoid
    > > > confusion, we'd need a different word to describe it.
    > > >
    > > > Thoughts?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > msh
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