From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
Date: Sat Jun 12 2004 - 03:08:26 BST
The joys of Intellectual enquiry Platt Holden style:
Platt Holden 24-3-04: No philosopher IMO has analyzed and traced the
implications of intellectual level premises better than Rand. As Pirsig pointed out,
the intellectual level demands individual freedom, a conclusion which Rand
fleshes out in full. Where Rand fails is her lack of understanding of the role of
the social level in blocking biological forces. Nor does she take into
account, or account for, man's intuitive understandings. Metaphysically, the MOQ has
more explanatory power than Rand's Objectivism.
Platt Holden 16-4-04: I see no contradictions in renaming the Intellectual
Level the Individual Level. It's simply a proposal for a change for the better
in the MOQ, something Pirsig encouraged.
Platt Holden 8-6-04: If you really want to go deep into intellectual enquiry,
I recommend any one of Ayn Rand's books, especially her seminal work, "Atlas
Shrugged."
Platt Holden 6-11-04:
(quoting Mark)
> 4. To return to that 99% which Platt Holden avoids: It is a matter for
> clear intellectual enquiry for anyone to compare Ayn Rand's Objectivism
> with the MOQ. All this is totally ignored in this response. It is ignored
> because Platt Holden cannot challenge it.
No. It is ignored because this is a forum about the MOQ.
Robert Pirsig, Lila's Child: "I believe there are a number of philosophic
systems, notably Ayn Rand's "Objectivism," that call the "I" or "individual" the
central reality. Buddhists say it is an illusion. So do scientists. The MOQ
says it is a collection of static patterns capable of apprehending Dynamic
Quality. I think that if you identify the "I" with the intellect and nothing else
you are taking an unusual position that may need some defending."
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