Re: MD Coherence and A.I.

From: Joe (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu Jun 17 2004 - 17:55:21 BST

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    On 27 May 2004 6:15 PM Mark M writes:

    Dear forum,
    Artificial Intelligence is helping scientists understand how biological
    evolution works. It is becoming more and more apparent that Biological
    evolution is most Dynamic at a sweet spot or state of tension between chaos
    and order. This state may be common in all patterned evolution?
    If A.I. is going to develop, it appears it is going to do so at a coherent
    state?

    Hi Mark and all,

    I have been out of touch at my son's wedding in Moldova. I am sorry if I
    seem so out of touch on the list.

    As I read through your post I wondered if there were a MOQ analogue to the
    'subjective' and 'objective' points of view of SOM? IMO 'mystical' and
    'degenerate mystical' describe DQ and SQ respectively. Everyone experiences
    the 'mystical' DQ so that would be 'objective'. Not everyone experiences
    'degenerate mystical' SQ in the same way, so we have definitions. Some
    words have many definitions. 'Degenerate mystical' would then be
    'subjective'. Words can be more or less degenerate! Sometimes I feel I am
    an idiot, or saying something really degenerate.

    I do not know if 'order', 'chaos', 'coherence', the equation '1 over e
    squared' are mystical or degenerate mystical points of view. In reading
    through your post I returned to the law of seven, everything can be
    described in terms of the octave, to help me understand your thesis. The
    sweep spot of harmony is intersecting octaves or different notes in the same
    octave.

    Dan Simmons in his SF series, Hyperion, The fall of Hyperion, Endymion, and
    The Rise of Endymion describes the Techno-core (A. I. society) as a parasite
    to sentient existence. I guess he accepted GIGO as gospel. A different
    speculation about level 5.

    Joe Maurer

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