From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
Date: Sat Jul 17 2004 - 02:15:06 BST
In a message dated 7/16/04 9:21:38 PM GMT Daylight Time,
daneglover@hotmail.com writes:
> Personal freedom is my ability to participate in Flow activities of my
> >choosing
> >for the greatest amount of time, all the while not prohibiting or making it
> >otherwise restrictive on others from participating in Flow activities of
> >their
> >choosing.
>
Arlo and Dan,
Arlo's terms, 'personal' 'my' and 'others' are rooted in SOM.
Dan's phrase, 'metaphysics of freedom' is confusing; The Metaphysics Of
Quality already provides arguably the best description of patterned freedom there
is: coherence.
Coherence specifically concerns and takes into account the MOQ's four levels
of evolution, and may therefore avoid the terms, 'personal' 'my' and 'others'
if carefully applied. The individual is simply a coherent state dominated at
various stages by one or more levels.
Coherence is closer to the code of art in that it allows maximum freedom
within patterns and minimum patterned relationships.
It may be argued that each person, as Arlo suggests, will value a coherent
state dominated by particular level(s) depending on the fluctuations of season,
desire, social expectation and intellectual value. Dan wishes to morally bias
the Intellectually dominated - fair but impractical - in the real world many
people value biological and social patterns over intellectual patterns.
It has often been noted that the older one becomes the more Conservative one
becomes. The MOQ would describe this as an accumulation of static patterns
which close off Dynamic influence. Platt Holden is an ugly example of this in
action. Utterly repulsive.
Coherence, on the other hand, may increase AND remain open to Dynamic
influence because static patterns are held in 'purposeless tension' or sq-sq tension.
I feel Pirsig himself is a beautiful example of this; although well into his
70's he remains fresh and invigorating.
For a few, intense coherence totally removes concern about freedom. After
all, as Dan quotes Pirsig, "If you’re not suffering from anything there’s no
need to be free."
All the best,
Mark
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