From: ml (mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Mon Aug 02 2004 - 13:35:59 BST
Greetings Joe,
Thank you for the nice words.
It is interesting to find the properties
of emergence in SOM thinking
seeming to point to the DQ we see in
MoQ.
thanks--mel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Maurer" <jhmau@sbcglobal.net>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: MD the metaphysics of free-enterprise
> Hi Mel
>
> I'm Joe. I enjoyed your post very much. David pointed out how it is
beyond
> the focus of SOM. Very nice!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ml" <mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com>
> To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 8:43 AM
> Subject: Re: MD the metaphysics of free-enterprise
>
>
> >
> > Paul / David:
> >
> >
> > I may have missed an entire "back channel" in an earlier discussion, if
so
> > apologies, but there is a glimmer of something that I am seeing in your
> > discussion that brings back recall of a synthesis that struck me the
last
> > time I read ZMM/Lila. Some time prior I became fascinated with Complex
> > Adaptive Systems, Emergent Systems, and Evolving or self-modifying
> systems.
> > The property of Emergence seems to manifest in these related types of
> > systems. Emergence is an unexpectedly complex behavior exhibited by a
> > system that possesses or is constrained by a simple rule set. (I have
> seen
> > the term emergent used by some in a way that is consistent with this and
> > others seem to bypass that notion in favor of a more simply one that
> > indicate becoming or arriving.)
> >
> > It seems that the thread appearing in some of this "metaphysics of free
> > enterprise - End game" discussion is pointing to this same insight. At
> any
> > evolutionary level, the Dynamic Quality will appear to associate itself
> with
> > Emergence and the Static Quality will become all other systems and the
> > foundation for or the opportunity for other Emergences - not yet
manifest.
> >
> > So, just to set my thinking in order, here is an attempt at MoQ stated
as
> a
> > function of emergence.
> >
> > However the physical phenomena of mass and energy begin, become, or
exist,
> > the changing states of each begin to organize and respond each to the
> other
> > in attributes along gradients.
> >
> > As physical evolution and organization evolves in the turbulence and
> eddies
> > of entropy and complexities aggregate and chemistry accretes, there are
> > natural examples of long and short-lived phenomena and systems. Those
> > physical systems, which show the most emergence and duration, have the
> > potential to become something more interesting in behavior and
> > manifestation.
> >
> > One such, based on carbon chemistry in a particular set of conditions,
can
> > be described by later manifestations of that system as "Organic Life."
> The
> > explosive diversity of niches created and exploited by the members of
> > organic life offer manifold strengths and strategies. Organic life when
> > examined along one particular vector of analysis, information
processing,
> > can be found to have highly variable capacity and demonstrate strong
> > emergence.
> >
> > Strong tropic clarity and system wide modification seems to
> > characterize those life forms most capable of conversion of
> > mass and energy into potential energy (Plants).
> > The characteristic of Immediacy of Response to gradients is
> > shared by the more motile forms (lower Bio-phagic and
> saprophytic).
> > Ability to process larger amounts of information more quickly and
> > abstractly model potential affective behavior of other systems
> > (Herbivores).
> > Ability to abstractly model affective behavior conditionally,
utilize
> > physical parameters differentially, coordinate between other
> > aware individuals, and develop new individual strategies.
> > (Carnivores / Omnivores)
> >
> > Each level of increased awareness seems to generate and depend on
amounts
> of
> > excess awareness of an ever larger perceptual universe. The Emergence
in
> > Herbivore - Carnivore - Omnivore of levels of complex behaviors oriented
> > towards others of like kind becomes most intensively dynamic for
behaviors
> > termed now as Social.
> >
> > Social systems evolve to require more time, effort, learning, and energy
> > from individuals. These systems demonstrate high adaptability and
> evolution
> > towards survival in the face of challenge and competition from other
> > systems, constraints, and events. As the "foot print" of social systems
> > spreads, the most dynamic behavior is found in the most emergent
cultural
> > situations. One extremely dynamic set of behaviors seems to abstract
the
> > behavior and meaning of social systems beyond simple individual or group
> > action. This set of highly emergent behavior is referred to as
intellect.
> > I
> > ntellect can process, manipulate, communicate, replicate, and affect
> social
> > behavior without significant physical or social action. As social
systems
> > before it, intellectual systems evolve, adapt, and become ever more
> complex
> > and detailed. Whole schools of endeavor and specialization spread
> > dynamically along with the static accumulations that accompany
incomplete
> or
> > supporting evolutionary steps.
> >
> > Now to step back for a moment, each level of evolution that has emerged
> from
> > the level before, becomes less constrained and capable of variation that
> is
> > baroque and rococo in flavor compared to the level below.
> > However, now that we see the Characteristic of Emergence as the spoor of
> > Dynamic Quality, we can actively choose to pursue the dynamic 'vector'
> > without getting caught up in the more static turbulence, the
interesting,
> > but insignificant baroque and rococo 'decoration' of intellect. We can
> aim
> > at the gap in intellect where the next level will realize itself in
> > emergence beyond intellect.
> >
> > So, we have ZEN trying to quiet the mind by showing that most of the
> > function of intellection is caught up in the seductive Static Decoration
> of
> > low quality. It seems that there is a way to move beyond the
> intellectual,
> > in the experience of others, or at least to swim in the existing current
> of
> > the dynamic and avoid the rococo shoals. Such 'techniques' seem to seek
> to
> > align the physical, biologically, in the milieu of the social, through
the
> > intellect towards the dynamic, transcending the static patterns of all.
> > CLARITY? Evolution?
> >
> > Unfortunately as a group we seem to allow such insights to DEVOLVE into
> > religions, through which we slip into biological and social tyranny.
> Oops,
> > our bad!
> >
> > I'm sure I am missing pieces.thoughts?
> >
> > (other than we seem to have passsed out of free enterprise) Whew!
> >
> > thanks--mel
> >
> >
> >
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