"He had come to think of dreams as Dynamic perceptions of reality. They were
suppressed and filtered out of consciousness by conventional patterns of
static social and intellectual order but they revealed a primary truth: a
value truth. The static patterns of the dreams were false but the underlying
values that produced the patterns were true. In staic reality there is no
cotopus coming to squeeze us and turn us into a part of its own body so that
it can frow stronger and stronger while we are dissolved and lost into
nothingness. But in Dynamic reality? These manhole covers always fascinated
him." P216
"The metaphysics of substance makes it difficult to see the Giant." P217
"In a value metaphysics, on the other hand, society and intellect are
patters of value. They're real." P265
"A value metaphysics makes it possible to see that there's a conflict beteen
intellect and society that's just as fierce as the conflict between society
and biology or the conflict between biology and death." P265
"The doctrine of scientific disconnection from social morals goes all the
way back to the ancient Greek belief that thought is independent of society,
that it stands alone, born without parents. Ancient Greeks such as Socrates
and Pythagoras paved the way for the fundamental principle behind science:
that truth stands independently of social opinion." P298
"What the larger intellectual structure of the MOQ makes clear is that this
political battle of science to free itself from domination by social moral
codes was in fact a MORAL battle!" P298
"Once this political battle is resolved, the MOQ can then go back and re-ask
the question, Just exactly how independent is science, in fact, from
society? The answer it gives is, 'not at all'. A science in which social
patterns are of no account is as unreal and absurd as a society in which
biological patterns are of no account. It's an impossiibility." P299
"Our scientific description of nature is always culturally derived." ... "If
Descartes had said, 'The 17th century French culture exists, therefore I
think, therefore I am,' he would have been correct." P299
"The logical order of things which the philosophers study is derived from
the mythos. The mythos is the social culture and the rhetoric which the
culture must invent before philosophy becomes possible. Most of this old
relgious talk is nonsense, of course, but nonsense or not, it is the PARENT
of our modern scientific talk. This 'mythos over logos' thesis agreed with
the MOQ's assertion that intellectual static patterns of quality are built
up out of social static patterns of quality." P378
"The MOQ resloves the relationship between intellect and society, subject
and object, mind and matter, by embedding all of them in a larger system of
understanding" ... "They have a matter-of-fact evolutionary relationship."
P299
"According to the MOQ these human rights have not just a sentimental basis,
but a rational, metaphysical basis." P307
"Unless you separate these two levels of moral codes (bio vs. soc & soc vs.
int) you get a paralyzing confusion as to whether society is moral of
immoral. That paralyzing confusion is what dominates all thoughts about
morality and society today." P307
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"If you ask a Catholic priest if the wafer he holds at mass is really the
flesh of Jesus Christ, he will say yes. If you ask, 'Do you mean
symbollically?' he will answer, "No, I mean actually". P372
"The current subject-object point of view of religion, conventionally muted
so as not to stir up the fanatics, is that religious mysticism and insanity
are the same. Religious mysticism is intellectual garbage." P372
"The MOQ indentifies religious mysticism with Dynamic Quality. ...the mystic
has abandoned all static patterns in favor of pure DQ." P373
"The MOQ associates religious mysticism with DQ but it would certainly be a
mistake to think that the MOQ endorses the static beliefs of any particular
religious sect. Phaedrus thought sectarian religion was a static social
fallout from DQ and that while some sects had fallen less than others, none
of them told the whole truth." P376
"He thought some more about Lila's insanity and how it was related to
religious mysticism and how both were integrated into reason by the MOQ. He
thought about how once this integration occurs and DQ is identified with
relgious mysticism it produces an avalanche of information as to what DQ
is." P377
"The physical order of the universe is also the moral order of the universe.
Rta is both. This is exactly what the MOQ was claiming. It was not a new
idea. It was the oldest idea known to man.." P382
"Phaedrus saw nothing wrong with this ritualistic religion as long as the
rituals are seen as merely a static portrayal of DQ, a sign-post which
allows socially pattern-dominated people to see DQ. The danger has always
been that the rituals, the static patterns, are mistaken for what they
merely represent and are allowed to destroy the DQ they were originally
intended to preserve. Suddenly the foliage by the road opened up and there
it was: the ocean." P385
"He could only guess how far back this ritual-cosmos relationship went,
maybe fifty or one hundred thousnad years." P386
"These rituals may be the connecting link between the social and
intellectual levels of evolution. One can imagine primitive song-rituals and
dance-rituals associated with certain cosmology stories, myths which
generated the primitive religions. From these the first intellectual truths
could have been derived. If ritual always comes first and intellecutal
principles always come later, then ritual cannot always be a decdent
corruption of intellect." P387
"He seemed to remember a book he'd always wanted to read called THE MASKS OF
GOD. (A four-volume set by Joseph Campbell.) You could discover a lot about
a culture by what it sadi about its idols. The idols would be an
objectification of the culture's innermost values, which were its reality."
P401
"Phaedrus hoped this Quality metaphysics was something that would get past
the immune system and show that American Indian mysticism is not something
alien from American culture. It's a deep submerged hidden root of it.
Americans don't have to go to the Orient to learn what this mysticism stuff
is about. It's been right here in America all along." "Phaedrus remembered
saying to Dusenberry just agter that peyote meeting was over, 'The Hindu
understanding is just a low-grade initation of THIS! This is how it must
have really been before all the clap-trap got started." P408
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