From: Erin N. (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Mon Dec 09 2002 - 16:44:28 GMT
Hey Rudy O,
>I suppose that my biggest question is, where does all
>this bottom out? Just how would you implement all of
>this? How would you propose to teach the world to
>think in MOQ terms and abandon SOM? Wouldn't you have
>to change the nature of education from kindegarten to
>grad school?
This was briefly touched on when we were talking about
teaching religion in school.
I think that to teach a 'moral' model would violate the
whole church/state separation.
I think if it would ever be taught at schools I would say
much later in a person's education.
Pirsig describes MOQ as transcending and including SOM and
I think he doesn't see it as eliminating SOM.
Just wanted to point out part of McWatt's essay that would
relate to what you are asking.
"To tear down a factory or to revolt against a government or to avoid repair
of a motorcycle because it is a system is to attack effects rather than
causes; and as long as the attack is upon effects only, no change is possible.
The true system, the real system, is our present construction of systematic
thought itself… (i.e. SOM) If a factory is torn down but the rationality which
produced it is left standing, then that rationality will simply produce
another factory. If a revolution destroys a systematic government, but the
systematic patterns of thought that produced that government are left intact,
then those patterns will repeat themselves in the succeeding government.
There's so much talk about the system. And so little understanding. (Pirsig,
1974, p.102)"
erin
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