Re: MD MOQ FOR DUMMIES, Please

From: Paul Goddard (p0lyg0d@yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Mon Dec 09 2002 - 19:12:57 GMT

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    All,

    LILA made an intellectual latch for sure, the dismissal of ZMM by the
    establishment must have been painful - I still hear it now from my lecturers
    ('neo-Zen middle aged hippie'). So the system had to be dealt with, but
    we should remember Pirsigs ability to talk about real life and common
    experience via metaphysics is the key, and a sure sign that his
    metaphysical map is a better one than SOM - he made it relevant to
    everyone.

    Intellectuals have a moral responsibility to guide and shape society for the
    better, so unless ideas feed back into a static social form ("gravy"?), I
    feel it is largely pointless. This forum is a difficult one, ideally there
    would be far more people contributing and we could begin to separate
    ourselves up into more specialist groups - this way ideas
    could be directed toward the relevant people - a kind of social channelling.
    Teachers of philosophy could get heavy about logical positivism and mothers
    could talk about the static latches made by their children. As it stands,
    the direction of conversation here is largely controlled by WPM, drowning
    out many of the transient visitors here. The intellectual abstractions
    sometimes presented here are alienating, it sounds like a stream of static
    garbage to most
    people. Pirsig has given us far more than this - he gave his life and
    sanity to this idea - ultimately so we don't have to.

    paul.

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