From: Erin N. (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Mon Dec 30 2002 - 17:05:51 GMT
>ERIN:
>>okay since you don't like the "baby/bathwater crank" quote, how about this
>>one..
>>
>>I. Linear vs. Circular/nonlinear causality
>> Systems theories present a different way of thinking about events.
>>Central
>>to this thinking is the distinction between linear and circular (or
>>nonlinear causality).
>> In the case of Linear causality:
>> A --> B A is antecedent to or causes B
>> In the case of nonlinear causality:
>> A <--> B A affects B just as B affects A, ( i.e., circular)
>
>OK. So are you saying that acausality happens when causality is
>expressed as a kind of positively re-inforced feedback loop?
Not sure, you can have feedback from A causes B too but not
in the same way as acausal relationships are saying.
Like with the other quote,he said it was chain of events, pointed out it is
multiple of chains, then summed it up as this then that.
You interpreted it as going back to the first definition.
But "this" could be a multiple chains so I don't think
that necessarily has to be true.
It's saying its always "this-- causes---that".
Acuasality is considering the possibility of
other relationships--that affecting this so to speak.
>ERIN:
>>don't worry I know the source is very important to
>>determine whether you agree with a quote or not
>>so i will put it in for you
>
>Note that you insisted on my opinion of the quote, and got it,
>before I knew the source.
>
>ERIN:
>>acausal (sychnronicity) remember?---you have not shown how
>>"unknown causes have no place to run and have to
>>be considered causal"
>>This is a sweeping, hasty, conclusion.
>
>It would be better if you said why you thought so.
>Glenn
Do you consider acausal relationships possible?
If not do you have any proof to rule it out?
If its unknown then can you admit that it
might not necessirily be a causal relationship?
Erin
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