From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Sat Aug 28 2004 - 07:04:25 BST
Dear Mark M.,
You prefer (27 Aug 2004 20:05:50 -0400) something like 'harmonious relations
between patterns of value of different levels' to 'a good fit between
patterns of value of different levels' as a description of 'coherence'? Fine
with me too.
You didn't anwer my question how the experience of 'coherence' relates to
the experiences of static quality and Dynamic Quality in your opinion, so I
will assume that it doesn't do so in the way that causes me problems ('a
different kind of experience that adds to or combines the experience of
static quality and Dynamic Quality').
'More coherence' (i.e. more harmony of lower level patterns of value with
higher level patterns of value) is then for me one of the criteria for
Dynamic Quality operating on a (lower) level: Better patterns of value
(those migrated farthest towards DQ) are those with more stability (a
relation of being more 'alike' a later version of itself), more versatility
(a relation between a pattern of value and its changing environment) and
more coherence (a relation between a pattern of value and patterns of value
of higher levels).
Does that fit you? (-;
What do I mean with a 5th level?
The MoQ is in principle open to the emergence of a 5th level, a type of
patterns of value that differs from 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th level types and
that can mediate between DQ and 4th level patterns of value. From a 4th
level perspective 5th level patterns of value cannot be described (just as
4th level patterns of value cannot be grasped in 3rd level terms, as
habitual behaviour). If it could, it wouldn't be a new level. Does it exist?
I don't know. Maybe enlightened individuals experience it, but are sadly and
tragically unable to communicate the experience to us, who are still mired
in 4th level patterns of value?
With friendly greetings,
Wim
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