RE: MD Wisconsin School OKs Creationism Teaching

From: mel (mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Sun Nov 14 2004 - 00:14:27 GMT

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    Hello Mark:

    Thanks for making my point!

    "Suppose there are only..."

    That's exactly the kind of thing
    that is the problem, pulling sphincter
    estimates rather than tracing the actual
    numbers; pretending to be able to say
    how and why everyone died and ignoring
    new information that does not fit in
    with a precious theory. Reality is more
    complex than armchair estimates.

    Look closely and they break down.

    How do you figure the addition of
    information to better understand
    some historical process is to be
    equated with a justification of
    genocide?

    To me it seems that any enlargement
    of understanding is a moral duty in
    a fourth level discussion, an attempt
    to enlarge DQ over tired old SQ, as
    it were, intellect over social.

    thanks--mel

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    [mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Steven Heyman
    Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:37 AM
    To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    Subject: RE: MD Wisconsin School OKs Creationism Teaching

    On 11 Nov 2004 at 21:37, mel wrote:
    from below:
    The folks who toss the numbers don't tend to
    follow that line, as it is too hard to trace.

    msh says:
    Yes, too difficult a task for all those tired old academicians
    tossing round the numbers, but not for mel.

    Let's make it simple: Suppose there were only two million Indians in
    North America in 1800. Let's say by 1900 there were 250,000, as a
    million had chosen to "kill themselves" by assimilating, and 750,000
    had been murdered because they chose not to assimilate and the
    conquering power really, really wanted their land.

    How does the choice of the million justify the slaughter of the
    750,000?

    This sort of apologetic for genocide has been around for as long as
    there have been colonial powers.
    <snip>

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