From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Thu Mar 31 2005 - 14:01:02 BST
Erin writes:
> I think your reducing their problems to chemical imbalances is
> oversimplistic and SOM. I disagree. Actually I think that kind of
> thinking is what got Pirsig the repulsive" treatment" he got like
> involuntary shock treatments.
Shock treatments can be beneficial as Pirsig points out in Chap. 30 of
Lila. Not only does he state that shock treatments "work," but that "...
the senseless unpatterned state (caused by shock therapy) is a valuable
state of existence." (Note that Pirsig implicitly correlates conscious
states and existence.)
> I don't agree with modern psychology's take
> on many things but I don't agree with Freud's theory either but that is
> irrelevent to my point. I'm not opposed to looking at Victorian
> goals/accomplishments....but I don't want to return to the Victorian era or
> ignore it's problems.
I'm sure Pirsig would agree that one can look at Victorian accomplishments
without yearning to return to that era.
> pg. 296 "how can you tell the two directions apart. Both oppose the
> status quo. Radical idealists and degenerate hooligans sometimes strongly
> resemble each other"
Pirsig suggests we can use his moral hierarchy as a guide in making
judgments about the value of "radicals" or any other moral question. Of
course, he is the first to admit that it's not foolproof.
Platt
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