From: David Harding (davidharding@optusnet.com.au)
Date: Mon Aug 15 2005 - 00:32:29 BST
ian glendinning wrote:
> Look Mark (me old mate ;-) )
> This one's deadly serious - no joking.
> I know you set this thread up as a challenge to Platt.
>
> Let me cut to the issue (for me).
> What makes a good debate / argument / case ?
>
> In this case you are about to trade stereotypical (right wing)
> Hollywood expressions of US macho dominance, with whatever left wing
> propaganda Platt throws back at you. You're all ears, we can't wait.
> Anyone keeping score ?
>
> In another thread you said - I deal in tightly reasoned logic, not ad
> hominem attacks, and I wouldn't dispute that.
>
> What I would argue is than NEITHER trading stereotypical propaganda,
> NOR tightly reasoned logic are high quality arguments for MoQ-Discuss.
>
> This is where I came in on MoQ-Discuss, 3 years ago ?, mainly arguing
> with DM, DMB and Platt as I recall - that tightly reasoned logic was
> the problem that MoQ was trying to break / fix. There are better
> quality arguments to be had, rhetoric and humour for a start, but it's
> the whole Zen half of the story that's missing.
>
> Was it Marsha or Erin who asked "Where is the Zen ?"
>
> For some arguments numbers and logic are the worst tools. Geddit ?
>
> I'll stop there for effect ;-)
> (Either that or quote "The Cornflowers" again.)
> Ian
Ian,
So what's wrong with logic?
-David.
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