From: Scott Roberts (jse885@cox.net)
Date: Fri Sep 02 2005 - 23:00:33 BST
Mark M, Ian,
Mark 2-9-05:
I would suggest that the total repertoire of symbols
is static while DQ evolves the whole repertoire all
the time. The repertoire includes memories, books, the
Internet, etc.
Scott:
Why not call the evolving of the symbolic reportoire intellect? Don't we say
Einstein employed intellect to come up with his theories, that we employ
intellect to write these posts? Otherwise, we might as well deny all freedom
and responsibility to human beings.
MM said:
The source of DQ motivation requires refinement, but
when it does, it must include algorithms within AI for
example.
and
Mark 2-9-05:
I'm afraid i do not understand what good old fashioned
intellect as propounded by Pirsig is? As far as i
remember, even Pirsig suggests that AI is intelligence
and this does not seem to be old fashioned but rather
contemporary in nature.
Scott:
Algorithms within AI are mechanical (like all algorithms), and as such are
the diametric opposite of intellectual activity. Of course, an algorithm may
be valuable, in the same way a shovel is, but that's all. "Artificial
Intelligence" is one of greatest acts of public relations hyperbole ever
produced by the scientific community. All operations of a computer have no
more than inorganic value unless and until its output is observed by a human
being, just as a shovel has no value unless and until it is used. There is
no *symbolic* activity on the part of a computer (unless one considers all
activity to be symbolic, in which case the symbolic activity of a computer
is the same as that of a rock).
- Scott
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