Re: MD Consciousness/MOQ, definition of

From: David M (davidint@blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Sun Sep 04 2005 - 22:08:38 BST

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    Hi chaps

    Yes, & the qualities and values that emerge
    changes through the levels to you get the
    sort of experience and activity that we associate
    with human beings.

    David M

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
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    Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:12 AM
    Subject: Re: MD Consciousness/MOQ, definition of

    > Scott:
    >
    > I accept your view. There's evidence of consciousness (response to value)
    > all the way back to the lowly virus. Further, it's known that atoms
    > exhibit value responses to their environment. The materialist explanation
    > has yet to go beyond the swiss cheese phase, i.e. it's full of holes.
    >
    > Platt
    >
    >> My own view (which is not generally accepted here) is that to speak of
    >> value is to speak of consciousness (awareness of value). Since, according
    >> to the MOQ, there is value at all levels, so must there be consciousness
    >> at
    >> all levels. In other words, consciousness did not arise at some point in
    >> time, and the idea that consciousness is a consequence of the nervous
    >> system reaching some level of complexity is just a materialist error.
    >>
    >> - Scott
    >
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