From: Valence (valence10@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Mar 03 2003 - 15:31:10 GMT
Hey David,
DMB
I should have said, "Pirsig's attack is upon a METAPHYSICS of substance,
but
> not the data, properties or values from which we deduce substance" or
> something like that. Its not easy to be precise about this, which is why
am
> so impressed with your efforts on this matter.
RICK
Thanks for the kind words David. Now if we could just find a way to see eye
to eye on this whole 'pragmatism' thing :)
DMB
> I should add that the shift from substance to inorganic patterns of value
> also manages to save the data and the world without making any kind of
> declarations about what is really is. He seems to be saying is that all we
> have are the data and that is quite enough. We don't have some deduced
thing
> in which qualities appear, we just have the qualites or values themselves.
RICK
Yes!!! I think we're now in complete agreement on this whole 'substance'
thing.
take care,
rick
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