From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 09 2005 - 09:49:32 GMT
Hi Erin,
You may be right about who coined relationalism, I just recall it from
an exchange with Rebecca, but it's immaterial to the discussion. The
concept was brought into discussion.
Paranoia ? You're right, but situation normal I think. I made some
points before about the significance of silence - threads and points
that go unanswered - and the opposite conclusions that could be drawn
from that. In general I suspect life is just too short to respond to
every item of potential interest.
Before I answer your Nike question, just one clarification of my
position. Dissenters vs supporters. You know I'm not one for
dichotomies - every shade of grey has some validity. My only point is
given that life is too short to follow every line of argument, some
"honesty" is needed in where people are coming from (and headed to) so
that we can make informed choices about where to expend our efforts.
That said - if MD was all critical discussion and no promotion /
synthesis - MoQ would not get very far.
The Nike question - I think there are two separate points - Ad's and Brands.
The Ad's can be on the same plane as Rembrandt or Warhol (or Sargeant,
for Platt) as creative arts, and clearly "the buddha quality can rest
in them". (The most recent Sony bouncing coloured balls in SF comes to
mind.)
But the Ad's (and logos) represent the "Brands" and the brands are
something different. They are about market power in global economies,
and there we have a whole lot more complex issues about their quality
... hence the debate.
(I was being facetious in my final remark about the siginificance of
adbusters itself. The real point was Ant's about making and exposing
connections.)
Ian
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