Re: MD 4th level - The more autonomous level.

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Fri Nov 25 2005 - 12:41:12 GMT

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    Arlo:

    > [Platt]
    > the 4th level should rightly be called the "Individual Level," for
    > without the innovation of individuals, it wouldn't exist.
    >
    > [Arlo]
    > Why not rename the social level the "individual level", since without
    > "individuals holding hammers", cities wouldn't get built. Or, why not
    > rename the biological level the "individual level", since without
    > "individual bodies" the biological level wouldn't exist?

    Show me "innovation" in a bunch of people holding hammers or in a gaggle
    of geese.

    > You continue to miss what is quite obvious. The "individual" and the
    > "collective" are dialectically and intrinsically related at all levels on
    > the MOQ. This is why Pirsig doesn't spotlight the "individual" as do the
    > Randian Charlatans.

    He spends a whole chapter putting the spotlight on the Randian brujo of
    the Zuni, and a whole book on the individual "Lila."

    Platt
    .

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