Re: MD quality-man made or natural?

From: Pi (pi@mideel.ath.cx)
Date: Wed May 28 2003 - 20:33:59 BST

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    On Wed, 28 May 2003, [iso-8859-1] nic nott wrote:
    > [snip]
    > My question then is does this quality only apply to the perception of
    > conciously constructed things ? I feel that quality is only reduced
    > through the filters of perception , the perfectly enlightened being
    > would see the perfection in any essay and equally always write the
    > perfect essay . Quality is always perfect and so does not really exist .
    > I welcome any enlightenment in this matter.

    Hi Nic,
    I am going to attempt to answer to a part of your email because I think
    Davor did an excellent job with the reply. I would like add some more
    points to the above mentioned portion.

    As I understand it, a "perfectly enlightened being" functions very close
    to DQ. To explain, we know that DQ is the leading edge of experience and
    all that we perceive around us, filters through our static (intellectual)
    patterns. I would think that a person in an enlightened state would have
    all the intellectual static filters removed. Since DQ does not have any
    positive or negative value associated with it, it becomes somewhat useless
    to ask if this person would see perfection in an essay or not. In fact,
    the question 'what is perfect and what is not?' is quite unecessary at an
    enlightened stage. To quote Pirsig (ZMM):

    What is good, Phaedrus,
    and what is not good...
    Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?

    :) Its interesting how I never understood this statement until after I
    read LILA.

    Another thing I would like to point out is that there no `absolute
    perfection'. When you say "...the perfection in any essay...", you seem to
    be referring to some absolute definition of perfection. As I understand
    it, the definition of perfection is very relative to our own static
    patterns of quality. For example, I believe that Pirsig's ZMM is an
    excellent book, but obviously everyone who has read the book does not
    share this opinion.

    Hope this made sense. Take care,

    - Pi
    http://pirsig.ath.cx/

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