Re: MD MOQ human development and the levels

From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Date: Mon Jun 02 2003 - 20:43:05 BST

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    Hi Squonk,

    sq: Hi Steve

    > Wilber is so tortuously convoluted, no one really understands what the
    blazes
    > he's on about.

    DMB could probably help explain it to you if you ask him nicely (i.e. no name

    calling).

    sq: But is there any Quality in it?

    >Wilber is a Value sink
    > in my view.

    ..and a cancer? Can you explain? What is so bad about Wilber other than
    that
    you don't understand him?

    sq: Place the MoQ and Wilber side by side. Which has more Quality? It's your
    own sense of Quality that will tell you. DuMB was asked this question recently
    and chose to ignore it.
    If you visit Wilber's home page you will see a publicity shot of a bald
    Wilber dressed in a crimson robe staring enigmatically through a pair of expansive
    spectacles into the lens of the camera. I should think there are enough
    warning signs on that site alone to make the Quality sensitive individual laugh
    themselves stupid. Funny how some people can't see that isn't it?

    You seem to be frustrated that everyone is philosophizing on this list.
    Isn't
    that what it's here for? If it's not what you are here for then is it
    actually
    you that really wants to end the discussion?

    sq: I am a tad frustrated the MoQ is dismissed off hand as a generalisation.
    Do you feel Wilber has Quality?

    Your message seems to be "stop posting to this list and look at some art."
    Am
    I wrong?

    sq: Yes, you are. The MoQ is Art. My message is explore and develop your
    understanding of the MoQ. That's why the people who run this forum set it up, in
    case you had not noticed.

    What do you get out of participating in this discussion group?

    Thanks,
    Steve

    sq: The opportunity to change it for the better. This means that one day i
    will be proud to recommend it to students who wish to learn about the MoQ and
    how thinking in terms of DQ/SQ tension has exceptional explanatory power. My
    experience of recommending the forum to date has brought shame upon me, for it
    simply lead to students being put off by asshole statements like the assertion
    that the MoQ is a generalisation.
    squonk

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