RE: MD The Giant (types of patterns/types of people)

From: Erin N. (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Mon Jul 07 2003 - 22:06:57 BST

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    >Hi erin, all,
    >
    >Erin said:
    >
    >> 1) would you put the Unabomber as 4th level dominated?
    >
    >Yes
    >
    >> 2) how does MoQ distinguish somebody who is dominated by intellectual
    values
    >> with lower levels neglected vs dominated by intellectual values with lower
    >> levels being met
    >
    >I think what you are pointing out is a significant limitation of merely
    >thinking of the levels as types of people. Doing so can't even distinguish
    >the unabomber from Ghandi!
    >
    >But DMB will probably supply some Wilbereze to "clarify" using such words as
    >"differentiation" "reintegration" "specialization" and "dissociation."
    >
    >> 3)how in general does a hierarchy deal with balance
    >
    >I believe Pirsig said that what's best is not to be dominated by any static
    >level, perhaps someone has the quote handy. I couldn't find it.
    >
    >Thanks,
    >Steve
    >
    >
    >

    Steve
    I agree with your idea of pattern vs type of person completely.
    I NEVER liked classifying each person liked that, so thanks for putting it
    into words. I don't know what quote you are talking about I would love if
    somebody found it.
    I only know that I was extremely glad to hear Pirsig say he was disappointed
    that people thought he was Phaedrus....that he was Phaedrus, Rigel, Lila..
    That led Platt and Glenn to ask who is the REAL Pirsig.
    Like biological, social values aren't REAL!

    The MoQ is kind of goal oriented--to become the best person you can be.
    I think this change is essentially changing the "goal" to some perfectionism
    of the intellectual level to multiple goals, no?

    Erin

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