Re: MD Where things end.

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Mon Sep 08 2003 - 18:35:08 BST

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    Hi Sam

    please elaborate on Pirsig's essentialism because
    one of my main interests is Heidegger and post-modernism and I do not see
    Pirsig as falling into
    using essentialism despite his use of the word metphysics
    which is associated with essentialism, I would love to try and get to the
    bottom of this disagrement.
    As I am very keen to avoid essentialism as a horrible form of closure.

    Regards
    DM
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Sam Norton" <elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 1:20 PM
    Subject: Re: MD Where things end.

    > Hi Paul,
    >
    > > Nice to see you back!
    > Thank you! It's good to be back - although I'll never get the chance to
    contribute as much again as
    > I have before. I'll probably just concentrate on MF once it gets going
    again. Anyhow, this bit is
    > worth pursuing in a little more detail (I agreed with the other bits you
    said):
    >
    > > Paul:
    > > Well, I don't see how it is possible to differentiate between two
    > > undefined monisms!
    >
    > My point is to question whether it is legitimate to *identify* two
    undefined monisms. Put
    > differently, if there is the assumption of ineffability about the monisms,
    it becomes logically
    > incoherent to identify them - because there are no grounds for asserting
    that identity, other than
    > that it reflects the guiding assumptions of the person making that
    assertion. I think this is (one
    > of) Pirsig's most significant flaws, and is one of the reasons why I'm
    uncomfortable with his
    > more-or-less Platonic perspective in Lila. I just see it as a Procrustean
    attempt to force different
    > religions into a single philosophical shape (an essentialist one), and
    that seems illegitamate to
    > me.
    >
    > Cheers
    > Sam
    >
    >
    >
    >
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