From: Nathan Pila (pila@sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri Nov 07 2003 - 01:12:15 GMT
Johnny,
From your example of the rusted bike, it seems that 'essence' could be a
synonym for 'quality'. The closer an object is to its 'essence' the more
quality it has? Is that what you mean?
What I mean by 'soul' is underlying essence.
If I have you right, your idea sounds a bit like Plato's parable of the
cave. The true or ideal object is off somewhere and what we see here on this
corrupted earth are objects that are not up to standard.
That's for your help that your question gave me.
Nathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "johnny moral" < >
To: < >
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: MD quality is ...?
> Hi Nathan,
>
> >David,
> >
> >Well, I just finished ZMM. I read the last paragraph this afternoon. So,
> >what is there to say. I'm not sure I liked it. There were parts that were
> >excellent and parts that were too turgid for my taste, but who am I to
say
> >what turgid is?
> >
> >I want to ask you whether you would say that 'soul' is another word for
> >what
> >ZMM calls Quality? And I am having trouble with 'expectation' as the
> >synonym. Could you perhaps elaborate?
> >
> >Nathan
>
> I'd love to hear David's take on Expectation, to see if this meme is
taking
> hold, but for now I'll defend the synonym myself:
>
> Think of what we want from quality products - we have certain expectations
> about them, if they are met, we call it a quality product. But we also
can
> expect bad things, like a broken down bicycle with rust and dirt all over
it
> we would expect not to work very well, so we actually feel sublime
> satisfaction, quality, when our expectation of it being a bad bicycle is
> met. If it worked very well, it would throw our universe out of order, it
> wouldn't be reasonable (though of course we'd investigate and find a
reason
> and then change our expectations.)
>
> I've also just posted a huge reply that covers lots of other stuff about
> expectation in a more general sense.
>
> Not sure about soul. How do you see it as being a synonym for Quality?
>
> Johnny
>
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