From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Nov 10 2003 - 04:31:57 GMT
HI Nathan,
>Can you tell me what came first, the expectation that an apple will fall
>from a tree, or the fact that an apple is pulled to the ground by gravity.
Good question. The expectation had to happen first, expectation *is* before
anything *happens*.
>In other words, how do we come to have expectations?
Expectations are older than you or I. We come to have expectations through
experience, and experience is of Morality, of whatever morally must be
experienced. It's just like materialism or SOM (and fully compatible),
except that instead of the universe existing as matter out there independent
of consciousness, it exists as patterns of morality, expectations of what
consciousnesses will experience. In SOM, the state and nature of the
universe is "stored" in the matter and laws that are out there in the
universe (whatever the "laws" are - that's always been a thorn in SOM's
side). In the MoQ, the state and nature of the universe is stored in
Morality, and becomes "real" only when experienced, creating the
conciousness at the same time as it continues the pattern being experienced.
We all see the same world because there is one Morality that implants the
overarching high quality patterns into us. A person couldn't live in this
world without Morality causing him to experience apples falling.
>If I started life believing and expecting pigs to fly, would they start
>flying? And if I was in a world governed by a wizard who made me think that
>pigs do fly regularly, would my belief and expectation then have an affect
>on the world?
A new born baby may not have any expectations that he will remain grounded
by gravity and not levitate, or any expectations about pigs, but WE have
those expectations, and they are of very high quality, implanted in us by
Morality with so much certainty that the pattern is invisibe to us. The
Morality that a baby is born into is the same Morality as his parents and
everyone's and will have to fit in to it. Thus, a wizard would have to
change Morality for everyone, not just your view of it.
Johnny
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