From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Nov 10 2003 - 21:03:42 GMT
>From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
>Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:23:09 -0500
>
>Hi Bo,
>
>In the book section of today's NY Times under Paperback Non-Fiction is
>a review of a book entitled "Lost discoveries: the Non-Western Roots of
>Science" by Dick Teresi, author of "The God Particle."
>
>In the review there are a number of observations made by Teresi that
>tend to dispute Jaynes' theory. Example: "The Babylonians developed the
>Pythagorean theorem at least 1,500 years before Pythagoras was born."
>Also, "The Egyptians mastered fractions, and Babylonian mathematics
>created a B.C version of the calculator, with its tables of
>reciprocals, squares, cubes, square roots and cube roots."
>
>I commend the review to you and others who are interested in discussing
>the emergence of the intellectual level. I think it sheds some new
>light on the question. At the very least, it suggests that our
>knowledge of those ancient times is limited and largely speculative.
>
>Best regards,
>Platt
I've had some thoughts about history that sort of apply here, if I may share
them with y'all.
My thoughts:
For something to be true about history, it has to fit in with TODAY's
Morality, or Reality. History emerges from the present. Today, we decide
that the Babylonians were however some authorities decide they must have
been, based on some evidence or something that few have ever seen and fewer
have agreed on, but the elaborate authority hierarchy system that exists
causes us to believe it. Did the Baylonians even exist? Only because our
Morality today says they did. If it made more sense to decide they didn't,
then they didn't, just like we believe that the Atlantians didn't exist..
The events of history are invented in reverse, we create history by agreeing
that it must have happened that way in order for things to be the way they
appear to be now. Even my own memories of lunch and what current events I
witnessed with my own eyes are created NOW by Quality, according to how best
fits Morality. Morality isn't going to give me wacky memories though,
because it wouldn't make sense, it wouldn't fit in with other people's
memories (a huge high quality expectation of our memories), not to mention
recording devices like cameras, etc, which we expect to hold static and
correct images from history.
The early beginnings of the universe didn't actually happen at all, human
consciousness invented it and decided that it must have "happened" that way,
and it invents the evidence that it did because it would be low quality for
no evidence to be there (ie, background radiation from big bang, fossils,
etc, are created where they need to be to fit into current Morality in the
highest quality way. They didn't exist until they had to exist in order to
fit in.) The same is true for things like atoms and molecules, they didn't
have to exist at all, and didn't, until a consciousness came looking for
them, expecting to find them there. First, there was just water, then H2O.
It is merely a high-quality expectation, an agreed-upon convention that we
have great certainty in, that atoms and matter have existed all along,
because it makes more sense to think that. And we all do, so it is True.
(But that doesn't make it false that that truth is only a ghost).
regards
Johnny M
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