From: Nathan Pila (pila@sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon Nov 10 2003 - 21:51:13 GMT
David,
You suggest that I start with existence. I am aware of the world and I ought
to start with that, you suggest.
Fine.
But isn't this awareness a product of the working of my brain?
If this is the case, then isn't this awareness an illusion. That is, the
awareness doesn't exist except as activity of chemicals and electrostatic
impulses running in the various neurons.
Neuroscientists tell us that the brain in not an all purpose computer but is
composed of modules, each having specific functions.
If I see a glorious sunset the feeling I get is not from the photons
impacting on my retina but the impulses that travel from the retina to
region of the brain that are then stimulated and produce what I then
interpret as a sensation. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't see how
starting with existence or awareness will change my life or the way I view
life. Or maybe it isn't suppose to. And if that is the case, then why are we
interested in this vantage point that ZMM is instructing us on?
Fondly, Nathan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David MOREY" <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: MD string theory
> Nathan
>
> Pirsig is suggesting that you start on the path
> to knowledge from existence rather than from a theory
> about what the world is made of. Objects/things are a way
> of understanding your experience. It may be that the theory is
> not very good. Start again, Pirsig suggests, consider what it is like
> to exist, take a look at experience.
>
> Or, look at objects/things as only a part of your experience.
> You also experience feelings/values about these so-called objects.
> Why do we neglect the reality of these experiences. We usually
> think about objects/things in terms of quantity in science. These
> is only a part of our experience, a way of measuring it. Pirsig
> suggests you consider the full richness of your experience when you
> ask: what is reality. He calls the full reality of experience Quality.
> Quantiity
> can be seen as a subset of this experience. Only once you consider how
> experience is, should you move on to look at how the world might be, and
> the best way to do this is to consider the big story or cosmology.
> This is to get away from so-called empiricism that tries to divide our
> experience into primary and secondary qualities and dismissing the
secondary
> ones
> as only subjective.
>
> regards
> David M
>
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