RE: MD Battle of Values

From: Erin N. (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Mon Dec 22 2003 - 19:55:38 GMT

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    >Erin:
    >
    >> Platt,
    >> There are bits of this I may agree with but why
    >> make it Judeo-Christian capitalism and not just
    >> capitalism. Do you have a quote suggesting these two must go together.
    >
    >How about a quote on all U.S. currency--"In God We Trust."

    I meant a Pirsig quote. You set this argument as Pirsig's without any quotes
    to support it.
    As for being on the dollar bill...well on my vacation to California a couple
    years ago while I was walking along the beach I also heard a lot of theories
    about why there was that triangle with an eye on it.
    I will just file this "evidence" along with their "evidence".

    >> Would you also like to change the title to God and the art of motorcyle of
    >> maintence too to complete your theory?
    >
    >No, but it might be "Dynamic Quality and the Art of Motorcycle
    >Maintenance.

    Okay but it is "Zen" which is not from Judeo-Christian culture.

    >> So Pirsig sees value in Christianity
    >> and capitalism and therefore wa-la its Judeo-Christian capitalism.
    >
    >No. Pirsig sees value in religious mysticism. Judeo-Christian capitalism
    >comes from the acknowledgment of values created by God in the U.S.
    >Declaration of Independence and in numerous government artifacts and
    >practices. Our Pledge of Allegiance, for example, contains the phrase,
    >"One nation, under God, with Liberty and Justice for all."

    I see value in religious mysticism too but there also have been rules about
    separation of church and state.

    >
    >It is moral for a country that supports the intellectual level to invade
    >any country that supports a lower level and disallows such basic
    >individual freedoms as freedom of speech, of religion, trial by jury, etc.
    >to its citizens Thus, The U.S. has a moral right to invade Cuba, for
    >example, but that doesn't mean it would be wise to do so since they do not
    >pose a threat. We may find it necessary, however, to invade North Korea
    >due to their belligerency and capacity to do great harm to their
    >neighbors.
    >
    >Platt

    Cuba and North Korea, doesn't this violate the Allah vs God Crusade theory you
    had going

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