From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Tue Jun 15 2004 - 01:53:14 BST
On 14 Jun 2004 at 18:20, johnny moral wrote:
Mark msh noted:
>I mean, I think, that a fact is a pattern with the
HIGHEST possible value. And that this value can be recognized by
anyone and everyone, though some may not choose to recognize it. So,
for me, it's the choosing that is subjective.
jm:
I just want to point out that people don't have a choice about
whether or not they "recognize" value or not. Depending on their
experiences and circumstances, they will either find harmony between
the patterns they value and the pattern of the new fact being
considered or they won't.
msh:
But people can choose to expand their experiences and change their
circumstances (learn, grow), and therefore come to find previously
undetected harmonies. This is related to the example of experiencing
DQ across cultural boundaries, in which you spoke of Japanese and
American musical tastes, and upon which I commented in another
thread.
jm:
I think Beauty also reinforces existing patterns... In other words,
saying this is beautiful is saying that there is lots of harmony here
and both this pattern and my other patterns are reinforced and
strengthed by this pattern.
msh:
And I can say to you: "Look, this is beautiful!" You might not see
it if you look; you certainly won't see it, if you refuse to look.
Best,
msh
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