From: Horse (horse@darkstar.uk.net)
Date: Mon Jun 28 2004 - 00:12:26 BST
Hi David
On 26 Jun 2004 at 20:05, David Buchanan wrote:
> Horse asked:
> Considering Vogels posts and his alliance with cosmotheism I think it is
> quite
> reasonable to label him as a racist.
> Considering that racism is prejudice and/or bigotry based on skin colour
> could you point out any instances where this applies to Platt.
>
> dmb replies:
> Sure. And if I hadn't just cleaned out my e-mail box, I'd provide snippets,
> quotes and such. In any case, the two examples that leap to mind would be
> Platt's advocacy of E.O. Wilson, who has been accused by many of his critics
> and who in fact "sponsored" Rushton for publication in an article. There is
> his advocacy of the Bell Curve. The connections between that book and
> Vogel's friends down at the Pioneer fund have already been well detailed by
> Mark Heyman. Less recently he's pushed Charles Murray's other book, "Human
> Accomplishment", which also tries to show the innate superiority of white
> culture. In fact the very research method used for that book, historiometry,
> was first brought in vogue by a 19th century eugenicist.
Don't get me wrong here. I think that racist science has as much legitimacy as creation
science - i.e. none. But there's a difference between being a believer in racist science
(as per Vogel) and pushing the theory to see if it stands up. I could be wrong though.
>
> And that's just the Plattisms I can recall off the top of my head. No, I'm
> not just hurling insults. I'm trying to expose bogus views as such. If I
> seem a little too eager to attack Platt's racist mentors its only because
> the "ideas" they espouse are so very dangerous. At the risk of seeming to be
> overly dramatic, I'd like to remind you that millions have been murdered
> over these kinds of racist views - and it's very likely that some more will
> be murdered today.
>
I'm not sure about the dangerous ideas bit (see one of my other posts). It's not the ideas
I worry about but the practice and this is where the difference lies between Platt and
Vogel in my opinion. The same with regard to the terms fascist and racist.
> Thanks for the chance to say that.
My pleasure.
See ya
Horse
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