Hey All,
I'm going to be "the MAN" here and defend capitalism. Too many people have
been hacking away at it without any real definite arguments. I say lay it
down on the table. I also challenge you to think up something better,
because obviously no system is perfect.
Capitalism is dynamic.
If you don't like the behavior of a company, vote with your wallet. Don't
buy their product. Support eco friendly companies. The power is in YOUR
hands, like democracy, that is the beauty of capitalism. You might not think
your vote counts for enough, but it does count. Capitalism has no rules, no
bad guys, no good guys. Capitalism is only as bad as the people that buy the
gas guzzling SUV's. Like life, if there is an opportunity, a company will
fill the void. That's why it works according to the MOQ, because it is SO
dynamic.
You may claim that capitalism causes people to be short sighted about
resources. But remember, if you don't use a resource now, someone else will
use it later. Like the last cookie in the jar, would you rather eat it or
leave it for someone else? Your issue is with human nature, something nobody
has the power to change, not with capitalism itself. Capitalism is all about
human nature. If nobody wants it, what's the point in even worrying about
that resource?
Also, the earth will go on just fine with more CO2 in the air, how do you
think all the carbon got under the ground in the first place? It came from
the air, and into plants from long ago. It's the same people who drive their
Ford Expedition to work and back every day that will pay the consequence if
our beach resorts get flooded. To the earth it's less than a blip on the
scale of global catastrophes. We will find alternate resources when we run
out, and we will probably switch to more eco-friendly ones way before we do
because of people like you and I who think it's worth the $ to feel good
about ourselves. If not, when all the water starts rising, Dykecorp will
fill the void.
Capitalism is a game to put food on your plate and a computer on your desk
and a car in your driveway, competition makes it as efficient in (expensive)
resources as possible. Capitalism does the trick and with less waste than
any other method we know. What's the problem with that? Would you rather
have to go hunting or farm every time you wanted something to eat? How
inefficient is that if you're the best shoemaker in the world? Keep making
shoes, the farmers will buy your shoes and you'll buy their food.
I want to hear arguments ladies and gents. You are questioning something as
fundamental to me as democracy. As Churchill said, "It may not be perfect,
but it's the best thing we know".
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
[mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 6:47 PM
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Subject: Re: MD Moral development
Hi there,
I am assuming you have confused me with someone else here?
Not sure about that so please forgive me? ;)
As for me being a latent socialist or anything else for that matter, i would
support social structures for the benefit of social order.
If that makes me a socialist, so be it?
I personally dislike capitalism.
I also understand that capitalism can be creative, but too many die in the
process; too many live in false consciousness for it? Too much finite
resource plundered?
The money machine behind the likes of Wilbur promote personal gain ahead of
true intellectual development.
And it's not Moral either?
All the best,
Squonk.
In a message dated 11/19/01 11:23:24 PM GMT Standard Time, dlt44@ipa.net
writes:
<< Subj: Re: MD Moral development
Date: 11/19/01 11:23:24 PM GMT Standard Time
From: dlt44@ipa.net (3dwavedave)
Sender: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
Reply-to: moq_discuss@moq.org
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
To Squonk and all other latent socialists.
Before you slink off you might help yourself unlock the mystery of
capitalism with, what else: The Mystery of Capital by Hernado de Soto
Hernando de Soto, a Peruvian, is President of the Institute for Liberty
and Democracy (Lima) and a former economic and political advisor to the
president of Peru. He is also the author of The Other Path: The
Invisible Revolution in the Third World (New York: Harper and Row,
1989).
Though Horse may gag, here is a link to an article on the IMF site.
>>
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