Re: MD The 4th level renamed?

From: David Harding (davidharding@optusnet.com.au)
Date: Wed Oct 12 2005 - 09:44:10 BST

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    Bo said:

    > Great insights Mike! This is exactly how I see MOQ's impact on
    > the earlier SOM reality. You and I obviously understand our
    > respective motives to distance the MOQ from the fourth level.

    Mark said:

    > Just as the inorganic level submits to a higher purpose by allowing
    > exceptions to the static law of entropy, just as the biological level
    > submits to a higher purpose by allowing exceptions to the static law
    > of "might makes right", just as the social level submits to a higher
    > purpose by allowing exceptions to the static law of authority, so the
    > logical level submits to a higher purpose by allowing exceptions to
    > the static law of *definition*. The pattern is clear to see, is it
    > not? So why shouldn't the MOQ stand above the fourth level?

    Mark and Bo,

    Why shouldn't it? Because it doesn't. It's not permanent and non-changing, the MOQ does change. You've just changed it. See how it changes?

    > Bo continued:
    >
    > Now, I don't postulate a 5th. level, the MOQ's intellectual
    > framework is intellectual and will remain so (by the same token
    > as biology's building block (carbon) remains inorganic, but it has
    > formed a Quality reality of which intellect is a sub-set. I still
    > search for the ultimate formulation here.

    I've got 'the ultimate formulation' for you. Quality. Quality just like reality has this unique, one of a kind, perfect for any metaphysics, ability where it can be both ultimate and changing at the same time. Ultimate, to me is just another description of quality. The best description we have at any one time is the ultimate description. Of course like quality, the ultimate can always be replaced by something better. Who's not to like this?

    In other words, either you agree with me, or your looking for something better ;)

    -David.

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